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		<title>By: What I&#8217;m Thinking About &#171; Off Our Pedestals</title>
		<link>http://fauxrealtho.com/2008/05/14/curiouser-and-curiouser/#comment-273869</link>
		<dc:creator>What I&#8217;m Thinking About &#171; Off Our Pedestals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 20:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Even more Clinton and Obama. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: zuzu</title>
		<link>http://fauxrealtho.com/2008/05/14/curiouser-and-curiouser/#comment-271754</link>
		<dc:creator>zuzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 02:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Actually, I think they did it because they got burned by their Lieberman endorsement last time.&lt;/i&gt;

And this worked out so well for them.

&lt;i&gt;A lot of people keep forgetting that this primary isn’t just the white woman vs. the black guy. It’s the DLC’s 50% 1 strategy vs. the DNC’s 50-state strategy. NARAL listened to the DLC last time and now they’re pissed that they got hoodwinked into supporting someone who’s gone over to the Republicans in all but name. So they’re rejecting the DLC candidate (Clinton) in favor of the DNC candidate (Obama). It actually makes perfect sense if you ignore the sexual and racial politics that keep getting thrown up in the media and look at the struggle within the Democratic party.&lt;/i&gt;

The trouble with that is, the endorsement is pretty clearly for the general election, not for the primary, because we all know the only pro-choice candidate is going to be the Dem.  If it were for the primary, why wait until three weeks before the end?  For that matter, given that the stated intent is to go after John McCain more effectively (because for some reason, it's impossible to draw attention to McCain's 0% rating without making a choice between two 100%-rated Dems with  a mere three weeks to go in the voting), why not wait until there's an actual nominee and also publicize McCain's record?

This is just a bone-stupid move.  I blame Nancy Keenan, the genius behind the Lieberman and Lincoln Chaffee endorsements.  I mean, look how well those turned out for NARAL.  Not to mention, the Lieberman endorsement was made not only without consulting the Connecticut affiliate, but actually over their objection, because they had a strategy with other local prochoice groups to endorse Lamont because of Lieberman's "short ride" comments. 

In this case, she decided to go ahead with the endorsement despite the board being bitterly divided, and without consulting or even notifying the local affiliates, many of whom have now had to release statements affirming their neutrality until a nominee is chosen.

Oh, and Keenan also was in charge when NARAL decided not to fight the Roberts or Alito nominations.

Sure hope she got access to that donor list of Obama's, because that's the only reason I can see for what she did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Actually, I think they did it because they got burned by their Lieberman endorsement last time.</i></p>
<p>And this worked out so well for them.</p>
<p><i>A lot of people keep forgetting that this primary isn’t just the white woman vs. the black guy. It’s the DLC’s 50% 1 strategy vs. the DNC’s 50-state strategy. NARAL listened to the DLC last time and now they’re pissed that they got hoodwinked into supporting someone who’s gone over to the Republicans in all but name. So they’re rejecting the DLC candidate (Clinton) in favor of the DNC candidate (Obama). It actually makes perfect sense if you ignore the sexual and racial politics that keep getting thrown up in the media and look at the struggle within the Democratic party.</i></p>
<p>The trouble with that is, the endorsement is pretty clearly for the general election, not for the primary, because we all know the only pro-choice candidate is going to be the Dem.  If it were for the primary, why wait until three weeks before the end?  For that matter, given that the stated intent is to go after John McCain more effectively (because for some reason, it&#8217;s impossible to draw attention to McCain&#8217;s 0% rating without making a choice between two 100%-rated Dems with  a mere three weeks to go in the voting), why not wait until there&#8217;s an actual nominee and also publicize McCain&#8217;s record?</p>
<p>This is just a bone-stupid move.  I blame Nancy Keenan, the genius behind the Lieberman and Lincoln Chaffee endorsements.  I mean, look how well those turned out for NARAL.  Not to mention, the Lieberman endorsement was made not only without consulting the Connecticut affiliate, but actually over their objection, because they had a strategy with other local prochoice groups to endorse Lamont because of Lieberman&#8217;s &#8220;short ride&#8221; comments. </p>
<p>In this case, she decided to go ahead with the endorsement despite the board being bitterly divided, and without consulting or even notifying the local affiliates, many of whom have now had to release statements affirming their neutrality until a nominee is chosen.</p>
<p>Oh, and Keenan also was in charge when NARAL decided not to fight the Roberts or Alito nominations.</p>
<p>Sure hope she got access to that donor list of Obama&#8217;s, because that&#8217;s the only reason I can see for what she did.</p>
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		<title>By: RKMK</title>
		<link>http://fauxrealtho.com/2008/05/14/curiouser-and-curiouser/#comment-271414</link>
		<dc:creator>RKMK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 23:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think he's going to ban abortion. I'm just squidgy that he's going to accommodate the social conservatives with things like "mandatory counselling" and forced ultrasounds and parental consent and all the little things that nibble away and make true &lt;i&gt;choice&lt;/i&gt; more and more difficult.

All under the umbrella of being a "uniter", of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s going to ban abortion. I&#8217;m just squidgy that he&#8217;s going to accommodate the social conservatives with things like &#8220;mandatory counselling&#8221; and forced ultrasounds and parental consent and all the little things that nibble away and make true <i>choice</i> more and more difficult.</p>
<p>All under the umbrella of being a &#8220;uniter&#8221;, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: norbizness</title>
		<link>http://fauxrealtho.com/2008/05/14/curiouser-and-curiouser/#comment-270789</link>
		<dc:creator>norbizness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 15:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it's Stockholm Syndrome with the current malAdministration and its purported third term extender, Grandpa Simpson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#8217;s Stockholm Syndrome with the current malAdministration and its purported third term extender, Grandpa Simpson.</p>
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		<title>By: arbitrista</title>
		<link>http://fauxrealtho.com/2008/05/14/curiouser-and-curiouser/#comment-270421</link>
		<dc:creator>arbitrista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 10:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that's bizarre, isn't it? The psychology of conflict has generated some pretty weird beliefs about the candidates in this race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s bizarre, isn&#8217;t it? The psychology of conflict has generated some pretty weird beliefs about the candidates in this race.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
		<link>http://fauxrealtho.com/2008/05/14/curiouser-and-curiouser/#comment-270335</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 23:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I have to admit, I’m constantly astounded at the people who are absolutely convinced that Obama is going to ban abortion.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don't know either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I have to admit, I’m constantly astounded at the people who are absolutely convinced that Obama is going to ban abortion.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t know either.</p>
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		<title>By: Mnemosyne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mnemosyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 23:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to admit, I'm constantly astounded at the people who are absolutely convinced that Obama is going to ban abortion.


Seriously, what kind of head injury did you have to sustain to decide that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit, I&#8217;m constantly astounded at the people who are absolutely convinced that Obama is going to ban abortion.</p>
<p>Seriously, what kind of head injury did you have to sustain to decide that?</p>
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		<title>By: Shortcakes</title>
		<link>http://fauxrealtho.com/2008/05/14/curiouser-and-curiouser/#comment-270228</link>
		<dc:creator>Shortcakes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 18:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure if I'll make it thru mod but:

http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/05/14/the-scoop-on-naral/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure if I&#8217;ll make it thru mod but:</p>
<p><a href="http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/05/14/the-scoop-on-naral/" rel="nofollow">http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/05/14/the-scoop-on-naral/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mnemosyne</title>
		<link>http://fauxrealtho.com/2008/05/14/curiouser-and-curiouser/#comment-270217</link>
		<dc:creator>Mnemosyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 17:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I think they did it &lt;i&gt;because&lt;/i&gt; they got burned by their Lieberman endorsement last time.  


A lot of people keep forgetting that this primary isn't just the white woman vs. the black guy.  It's the DLC's 50% 1 strategy vs. the DNC's 50-state strategy.  NARAL listened to the DLC last time and now they're pissed that they got hoodwinked into supporting someone who's gone over to the Republicans in all but name.  So they're rejecting the DLC candidate (Clinton) in favor of the DNC candidate (Obama).  It actually makes perfect sense if you ignore the sexual and racial politics that keep getting thrown up in the media and look at the struggle within the Democratic party.


Personally, I think NARAL made the right choice, but I'm a 50-stater all the way no matter what each candidate has in their pants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I think they did it <i>because</i> they got burned by their Lieberman endorsement last time.  </p>
<p>A lot of people keep forgetting that this primary isn&#8217;t just the white woman vs. the black guy.  It&#8217;s the DLC&#8217;s 50% 1 strategy vs. the DNC&#8217;s 50-state strategy.  NARAL listened to the DLC last time and now they&#8217;re pissed that they got hoodwinked into supporting someone who&#8217;s gone over to the Republicans in all but name.  So they&#8217;re rejecting the DLC candidate (Clinton) in favor of the DNC candidate (Obama).  It actually makes perfect sense if you ignore the sexual and racial politics that keep getting thrown up in the media and look at the struggle within the Democratic party.</p>
<p>Personally, I think NARAL made the right choice, but I&#8217;m a 50-stater all the way no matter what each candidate has in their pants.</p>
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		<title>By: Shortcakes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shortcakes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 15:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erm, Amanda, how does that make any sense at all?  Why endorse yesterday, when it looks like an attempt to undermine Clinton's victory in West Virginia? I'm not saying that is why they chose yesterday, but gosh that is how it looks. Why not weeks ago if ending McCain's free ride is so important?

And why does endorsing Obama "end McCain's free ride."? Couldn't NARAL run ads criticizing McCain without endorsing a candidate in the primaries? Yes indeed they could. Don't insult our intelligence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erm, Amanda, how does that make any sense at all?  Why endorse yesterday, when it looks like an attempt to undermine Clinton&#8217;s victory in West Virginia? I&#8217;m not saying that is why they chose yesterday, but gosh that is how it looks. Why not weeks ago if ending McCain&#8217;s free ride is so important?</p>
<p>And why does endorsing Obama &#8220;end McCain&#8217;s free ride.&#8221;? Couldn&#8217;t NARAL run ads criticizing McCain without endorsing a candidate in the primaries? Yes indeed they could. Don&#8217;t insult our intelligence.</p>
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