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		<title>By: Kyso K</title>
		<link>http://fauxrealtho.com/2008/04/08/hug-a-customer-service-worker-today/#comment-233821</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyso K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 23:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live the spoiled life of the mind now, and have no customers, but I do occasionally have to explain to Eastern Europeans why you do not, under any circumstance, end a conversation about a girl with the phrase "depends on what you use her for."

This is the same guy who, when a friend offered to set him up with a girl who was checking him out, bought a dozen condoms before the first date.  Of course girl was told about this and decided she had to wash her hair that night.  He still doesn't understand what he did wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live the spoiled life of the mind now, and have no customers, but I do occasionally have to explain to Eastern Europeans why you do not, under any circumstance, end a conversation about a girl with the phrase &#8220;depends on what you use her for.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is the same guy who, when a friend offered to set him up with a girl who was checking him out, bought a dozen condoms before the first date.  Of course girl was told about this and decided she had to wash her hair that night.  He still doesn&#8217;t understand what he did wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Marksman2000</title>
		<link>http://fauxrealtho.com/2008/04/08/hug-a-customer-service-worker-today/#comment-227122</link>
		<dc:creator>Marksman2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 03:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take solace in the fact that those who are rude and irritable and derisive behave like so because of the discontent they harbor about themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take solace in the fact that those who are rude and irritable and derisive behave like so because of the discontent they harbor about themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
		<link>http://fauxrealtho.com/2008/04/08/hug-a-customer-service-worker-today/#comment-226740</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>S&#038;S:  My apologies for being unclear.  The dude in question (hypothetically) was so ironic to me &lt;em&gt;because&lt;/em&gt; of the visible swastikas all over his body.

&lt;blockquote&gt;And so I am left wondering why I should sympathize with someone who tells me a story in which the most sympathetic character is someone who would certainly not have been the kindest person in my day as a customer service rep, he would likely have been the worst.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Word.  I was trying to hat-tip that POV by acknowledging that likely the only reason he was decent to me was because of my appearance.  It's not meant to be boastful or whatever, but to highlight how that privilege worked in that situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>S&#038;S:  My apologies for being unclear.  The dude in question (hypothetically) was so ironic to me <em>because</em> of the visible swastikas all over his body.</p>
<blockquote><p>And so I am left wondering why I should sympathize with someone who tells me a story in which the most sympathetic character is someone who would certainly not have been the kindest person in my day as a customer service rep, he would likely have been the worst.</p></blockquote>
<p>Word.  I was trying to hat-tip that POV by acknowledging that likely the only reason he was decent to me was because of my appearance.  It&#8217;s not meant to be boastful or whatever, but to highlight how that privilege worked in that situation.</p>
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		<title>By: sympathetic and shocked</title>
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		<dc:creator>sympathetic and shocked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am deeply sorry you, and every other working class person in a service job, is treated so poorly. As you note, there is a direct correlation between the social capital of a position and the way a person will be routinely treated. It always fascinates me sitting through the annual speech about how we all need to be nicer to the admin while the director orders the admin around, "did you bring the coffee this time?" "those are the wrong size waters." "I made hand outs about acceptable ways to address you, didn't you photo copy them?" etc. And I always take note of how my "please and thank yous" to that admin and others raise eyebrows. Lately, I have come to notice how grateful my servers are for a tip . . . No one should be treated like they are ignorant, useless, or a waste of space in their job regardless of what job it is. 

However, I am also deeply disturbed by the way you chose to tell this story. In a story that is clearly about class conflict you decide to center a neo-nazi who was nicer to you than a myriad of others who crossed race, gender, and age lines. Noting only briefly, near the end, that you are white, blonde, and blue-eyed. What am I to take away from this story, true or not? Why does the spectre of race, which is so clearly over determined by your appearance vs. the brown woman whose image you appropriate for this post, enter into this discussion? and enter in precisely to draw a distinction in which a person espousing genocidal racial ideologies backed by both historical and present day violence resulting in severe beatings and deaths used as the counterpoint to class conflict? You could have told me this story without making such a comparison. You could have told the whole story in a way that deconstructed your white privilege vis-a-vis the neo-nazi and how that would have shifted for another customer service person who was of color - thus highlighting class and race for you and for poc - but you did not. And so I am left wondering why I should sympathize with someone who tells me a story in which the most sympathetic character is someone who would certainly not have been the kindest person in my day as a customer service rep, he would likely have been the worst. 

Again, I am sorry for how you were treated. I have watched it happen and experienced it myself when I worked in food service. But honestly, I have real trouble supporting anyone who when it comes down to their own suffering once again falls into the trap of juxtaposing their oppression with racism offering up a narrative in which racism is somehow lesser.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am deeply sorry you, and every other working class person in a service job, is treated so poorly. As you note, there is a direct correlation between the social capital of a position and the way a person will be routinely treated. It always fascinates me sitting through the annual speech about how we all need to be nicer to the admin while the director orders the admin around, &#8220;did you bring the coffee this time?&#8221; &#8220;those are the wrong size waters.&#8221; &#8220;I made hand outs about acceptable ways to address you, didn&#8217;t you photo copy them?&#8221; etc. And I always take note of how my &#8220;please and thank yous&#8221; to that admin and others raise eyebrows. Lately, I have come to notice how grateful my servers are for a tip . . . No one should be treated like they are ignorant, useless, or a waste of space in their job regardless of what job it is. </p>
<p>However, I am also deeply disturbed by the way you chose to tell this story. In a story that is clearly about class conflict you decide to center a neo-nazi who was nicer to you than a myriad of others who crossed race, gender, and age lines. Noting only briefly, near the end, that you are white, blonde, and blue-eyed. What am I to take away from this story, true or not? Why does the spectre of race, which is so clearly over determined by your appearance vs. the brown woman whose image you appropriate for this post, enter into this discussion? and enter in precisely to draw a distinction in which a person espousing genocidal racial ideologies backed by both historical and present day violence resulting in severe beatings and deaths used as the counterpoint to class conflict? You could have told me this story without making such a comparison. You could have told the whole story in a way that deconstructed your white privilege vis-a-vis the neo-nazi and how that would have shifted for another customer service person who was of color - thus highlighting class and race for you and for poc - but you did not. And so I am left wondering why I should sympathize with someone who tells me a story in which the most sympathetic character is someone who would certainly not have been the kindest person in my day as a customer service rep, he would likely have been the worst. </p>
<p>Again, I am sorry for how you were treated. I have watched it happen and experienced it myself when I worked in food service. But honestly, I have real trouble supporting anyone who when it comes down to their own suffering once again falls into the trap of juxtaposing their oppression with racism offering up a narrative in which racism is somehow lesser.</p>
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		<title>By: On Writing, Atrocity and Privilege, Redux at Faux Real</title>
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		<dc:creator>On Writing, Atrocity and Privilege, Redux at Faux Real</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I Had a Bad Day Today: 15 comments in two days 200,000 Women Have Had A Really Fucking Bad Decade: 1 comment in two days [...]</description>
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		<title>By: OneirosDreaming</title>
		<link>http://fauxrealtho.com/2008/04/08/hug-a-customer-service-worker-today/#comment-224999</link>
		<dc:creator>OneirosDreaming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which is precisly why all of my anger (cursing mostly, sometimes yelling) is done &lt;i&gt;before&lt;/i&gt; my interactions with customer service. While they are representatives of their company, which may deserve my abuse, they are also people, who do not.

Having been a server in the past for a number of years, I know what it feels like. I also know that, by treating the rep like the human being that they are, I am more likely to get better service. Unfortunately, I believe that much of that may be because of the assholes who abuse them. I wish they would stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which is precisly why all of my anger (cursing mostly, sometimes yelling) is done <i>before</i> my interactions with customer service. While they are representatives of their company, which may deserve my abuse, they are also people, who do not.</p>
<p>Having been a server in the past for a number of years, I know what it feels like. I also know that, by treating the rep like the human being that they are, I am more likely to get better service. Unfortunately, I believe that much of that may be because of the assholes who abuse them. I wish they would stop.</p>
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		<title>By: Betsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would add working at a homeless shelter to the list of jobs everyone should have to do.  They would be surprised both at how wonderful many of the guests are and how odious some of the general public is.  We had one woman who, about once a month, donated 15 gallons of weeks-old milk (like, 3 or 4 weeks past the due date), and then take a tax-deduction receipt. It was so disgusting.  She usually would plunk them down and drive off before anyone could talk to her, but once I got to her and explained that we could not accept spoiled milk; we did not serve rotten food to our guests.  She threw a huge screaming fit, left the 15 gallons in front the shelter on the curb, and called the director of the shelter to complain about me.  Luckily, it was on orders of the directer that I had told her to stop bringing that nasty stuff, and so the director congratulated me after getting that phone call. But jesus. Why anyone would think that just because people are homeless, that it makes it ok to give them dangerously spoiled food, i will never understand. 

Lauren, I am so sorry you have to put up with such abuse.  People need to learn to be decent to each other. I agree completely with Chris Clarke, the way someone treats service workers is one of the first criteria I have for evaluating them as a potential lover, friend, human being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would add working at a homeless shelter to the list of jobs everyone should have to do.  They would be surprised both at how wonderful many of the guests are and how odious some of the general public is.  We had one woman who, about once a month, donated 15 gallons of weeks-old milk (like, 3 or 4 weeks past the due date), and then take a tax-deduction receipt. It was so disgusting.  She usually would plunk them down and drive off before anyone could talk to her, but once I got to her and explained that we could not accept spoiled milk; we did not serve rotten food to our guests.  She threw a huge screaming fit, left the 15 gallons in front the shelter on the curb, and called the director of the shelter to complain about me.  Luckily, it was on orders of the directer that I had told her to stop bringing that nasty stuff, and so the director congratulated me after getting that phone call. But jesus. Why anyone would think that just because people are homeless, that it makes it ok to give them dangerously spoiled food, i will never understand. </p>
<p>Lauren, I am so sorry you have to put up with such abuse.  People need to learn to be decent to each other. I agree completely with Chris Clarke, the way someone treats service workers is one of the first criteria I have for evaluating them as a potential lover, friend, human being.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(((((((Lauren)))))))

I do what is called "internal customer service" and have been monstered by people from whom I can't escape, as they work with me and our roles all interlock.</description>
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<p>I do what is called &#8220;internal customer service&#8221; and have been monstered by people from whom I can&#8217;t escape, as they work with me and our roles all interlock.</p>
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		<title>By: Noli Irritare Leones &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sigh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noli Irritare Leones &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 06:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] blogging under your very own real name, has all sorts of confidentiality issues. But there&#8217;s Lauren&#8217;s (hypothetical) customer service job, to which I can kind of relate, since I have worked tech support, and that does sometimes involve [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] blogging under your very own real name, has all sorts of confidentiality issues. But there&#8217;s Lauren&#8217;s (hypothetical) customer service job, to which I can kind of relate, since I have worked tech support, and that does sometimes involve [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Isabel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isabel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 02:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work with kids in an NYC public school. Last week one of my literacy tutorees (the one who hadn't ever seen me and proceeded to bolt for the stairs) flat out refused to do the (stupid, boring, fluency-only i.e. no-comprehension) literacy program I'm supposed to do with her and instead pouted and yelled at me for "yelling" at her for a half hour (a half hour of my lunchbreak, because god forbid if you assign people to tutor kids, you actually make an effort to coordinate the schedule of tutor and tutoree) until I told her teacher, who berated her needlessly cruelly. Then I cried on my way to my deli, ate my sandwich, and experienced a meeting where a coworker implied he was better at my job because his homework table talks less than mine.

Yesterday two fifth graders at my school--mercifully I wasn't there for this--got into a fight so bad one of them pulled out a piece of the other's scalp. One of their classmates saw it and cried. Another classmate had to choke her to get her to calm down and got kicked in the eye in the process.

Today my homework table refused to listen to me when I asked them to do anything, and when I raised my voice because they were literally not acknowledging me they accused me of being mean.

Not to mention getting to watch teachers throw tantrums because seven-year-olds are not perfectly quiet, getting to hear students tell me to fuck off or they don't care if anyone gets hurt OR if they get in trouble, when they wanna hit people they wanna hit people!, watching first graders need to be pulled apart by security guards, trying not to let my eyes widen in shock when a kid tells me about getting beaten by his parents, and so much more. 

And the really sick thing is, I actually love my job. Oy.

Also: I agree with Chris re: being rude to a waiter (or someone in a similar situation) would be absolutely a dealbreaker for me. I would probably tip extra and then never call the guy again, ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work with kids in an NYC public school. Last week one of my literacy tutorees (the one who hadn&#8217;t ever seen me and proceeded to bolt for the stairs) flat out refused to do the (stupid, boring, fluency-only i.e. no-comprehension) literacy program I&#8217;m supposed to do with her and instead pouted and yelled at me for &#8220;yelling&#8221; at her for a half hour (a half hour of my lunchbreak, because god forbid if you assign people to tutor kids, you actually make an effort to coordinate the schedule of tutor and tutoree) until I told her teacher, who berated her needlessly cruelly. Then I cried on my way to my deli, ate my sandwich, and experienced a meeting where a coworker implied he was better at my job because his homework table talks less than mine.</p>
<p>Yesterday two fifth graders at my school&#8211;mercifully I wasn&#8217;t there for this&#8211;got into a fight so bad one of them pulled out a piece of the other&#8217;s scalp. One of their classmates saw it and cried. Another classmate had to choke her to get her to calm down and got kicked in the eye in the process.</p>
<p>Today my homework table refused to listen to me when I asked them to do anything, and when I raised my voice because they were literally not acknowledging me they accused me of being mean.</p>
<p>Not to mention getting to watch teachers throw tantrums because seven-year-olds are not perfectly quiet, getting to hear students tell me to fuck off or they don&#8217;t care if anyone gets hurt OR if they get in trouble, when they wanna hit people they wanna hit people!, watching first graders need to be pulled apart by security guards, trying not to let my eyes widen in shock when a kid tells me about getting beaten by his parents, and so much more. </p>
<p>And the really sick thing is, I actually love my job. Oy.</p>
<p>Also: I agree with Chris re: being rude to a waiter (or someone in a similar situation) would be absolutely a dealbreaker for me. I would probably tip extra and then never call the guy again, ever.</p>
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