Comments on: “Taking Responsibility” http://fauxrealtho.com/2007/12/19/taking-responsibility/ Sat, 30 Aug 2008 07:06:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Susan http://fauxrealtho.com/2007/12/19/taking-responsibility/#comment-214312 Susan Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:58:45 +0000 http://fauxrealtho.com/2007/12/19/taking-responsibility/#comment-214312 "she might have been given abstinence-only sex education and told that using contraceptives and condoms was sinful, because it meant you planned on having sex." Seriously, even 16 year olds are not that stupid. Obviously, having sex can get you pregnant, and there's no way she could have not known at the very least to pull out, or use a condom. In fact, I think if she was expected to stay a virgin, she'd be even more careful, so as not to have an obvious sign (the baby) as to her nonvirginity. Teenagers do tend to think their "invincible" but I know when I was a teenager I knew, and my friends also knew that sex can get you pregnant. I think where the invincibility lies in this case is what the effect would be on your life if you had a baby as a teenager. That is the meesage we should be teaching. Even the very best birth control education will have to effect if the kids still think that having a kid would be "kind of fun" Generally, people know that sex gets you pregnant by the time they are having sex, and they do it "less responsibly" when they really kind of want a baby, whether they realize they want it or not. Anyhow, whatever the statistis are, no method is 100% and if she was truly shocked, then she probably was being "responsible" with sex. Even if the method is 99.9% there is still a chance. “she might have been given abstinence-only sex education and told that using contraceptives and condoms was sinful, because it meant you planned on having sex.”

Seriously, even 16 year olds are not that stupid. Obviously, having sex can get you pregnant, and there’s no way she could have not known at the very least to pull out, or use a condom. In fact, I think if she was expected to stay a virgin, she’d be even more careful, so as not to have an obvious sign (the baby) as to her nonvirginity.
Teenagers do tend to think their “invincible” but I know when I was a teenager I knew, and my friends also knew that sex can get you pregnant. I think where the invincibility lies in this case is what the effect would be on your life if you had a baby as a teenager. That is the meesage we should be teaching. Even the very best birth control education will have to effect if the kids still think that having a kid would be “kind of fun”
Generally, people know that sex gets you pregnant by the time they are having sex, and they do it “less responsibly” when they really kind of want a baby, whether they realize they want it or not.
Anyhow, whatever the statistis are, no method is 100% and if she was truly shocked, then she probably was being “responsible” with sex. Even if the method is 99.9% there is still a chance.

]]> By: ann O'Dyne http://fauxrealtho.com/2007/12/19/taking-responsibility/#comment-148873 ann O'Dyne Mon, 31 Dec 2007 05:15:00 +0000 http://fauxrealtho.com/2007/12/19/taking-responsibility/#comment-148873 Many people do not realise that oral contraception can fail if one vomits at any time during the course. and who are these 'Families' who are so UNfriendly. boring, that's what. Many people do not realise that oral contraception can fail if one vomits at any time during the course.

and who are these ‘Families’ who are so UNfriendly.
boring, that’s what.

]]> By: zuzu http://fauxrealtho.com/2007/12/19/taking-responsibility/#comment-148745 zuzu Mon, 31 Dec 2007 00:33:54 +0000 http://fauxrealtho.com/2007/12/19/taking-responsibility/#comment-148745 Or, she might have been given abstinence-only sex education and told that using contraceptives and condoms was sinful, because it meant you planned on having sex. Somehow, I doubt she's had a comprehensive and accurate sex education. Or, she might have been given abstinence-only sex education and told that using contraceptives and condoms was sinful, because it meant you planned on having sex.

Somehow, I doubt she’s had a comprehensive and accurate sex education.

]]> By: Rebekka http://fauxrealtho.com/2007/12/19/taking-responsibility/#comment-148340 Rebekka Sun, 30 Dec 2007 04:43:03 +0000 http://fauxrealtho.com/2007/12/19/taking-responsibility/#comment-148340 "the pill fails for 8 out out of every 100 women with “typical use.” " The what now? 8% is way high - According to Contraceptive Technology: Seventeenth Revised Edition. Hatcher RA, Trussell J, Stewart F, Cates W, Stewart GK, Kowal D, Guest F, New York NY: Irvington Publishers, 1998, typical use failure is 5% - 5 women per hundred per year, not 8% With "perfect use" failure is only 0.1% with the pill. But I agree - most likely they *were* using contraception. Probably condoms, which have a 14% actual use failure rate. That's more than a one in ten chance of getting pregnant each year if that's all you're using. I dunno why anyone would assume they weren't using something - most teenagers are having sex and most of them don't get pregnant. “the pill fails for 8 out out of every 100 women with “typical use.” ”

The what now? 8% is way high - According to Contraceptive Technology: Seventeenth Revised Edition. Hatcher RA, Trussell J, Stewart F, Cates W, Stewart GK, Kowal D, Guest F, New York NY: Irvington Publishers, 1998, typical use failure is 5% - 5 women per hundred per year, not 8%

With “perfect use” failure is only 0.1% with the pill.

But I agree - most likely they *were* using contraception. Probably condoms, which have a 14% actual use failure rate. That’s more than a one in ten chance of getting pregnant each year if that’s all you’re using.

I dunno why anyone would assume they weren’t using something - most teenagers are having sex and most of them don’t get pregnant.

]]> By: Posts that say it better than I could at Hoyden About Town http://fauxrealtho.com/2007/12/19/taking-responsibility/#comment-147931 Posts that say it better than I could at Hoyden About Town Sat, 29 Dec 2007 12:27:18 +0000 http://fauxrealtho.com/2007/12/19/taking-responsibility/#comment-147931 [...] Lauren on Jamie-Lyn Spears’ pregnancy at age 16. [...] [...] Lauren on Jamie-Lyn Spears’ pregnancy at age 16. [...]

]]> By: Noli Irritare Leones » Blog Archive » She did the things that we both did before now, but who forgave her? http://fauxrealtho.com/2007/12/19/taking-responsibility/#comment-143217 Noli Irritare Leones » Blog Archive » She did the things that we both did before now, but who forgave her? Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:22:07 +0000 http://fauxrealtho.com/2007/12/19/taking-responsibility/#comment-143217 [...] So, it’s time to point to another celebrity as an object lesson in morality, and either praise her for taking responsibility* or shake your head about how she is trailer trash. Scott smells a double standard, and this leads to a lengthy thread in which his commenters engage in heated debate over whether it’s a bad thing for a sixteen-year-old to have sex. [...] [...] So, it’s time to point to another celebrity as an object lesson in morality, and either praise her for taking responsibility* or shake your head about how she is trailer trash. Scott smells a double standard, and this leads to a lengthy thread in which his commenters engage in heated debate over whether it’s a bad thing for a sixteen-year-old to have sex. [...]

]]> By: Nicole J http://fauxrealtho.com/2007/12/19/taking-responsibility/#comment-142876 Nicole J Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:16:07 +0000 http://fauxrealtho.com/2007/12/19/taking-responsibility/#comment-142876 Blair from 'Facts of Life' is in support of Jamie-Lynn. http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/FallConcert/story?id=4032940&page=1 Blair from ‘Facts of Life’ is in support of Jamie-Lynn.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/FallConcert/story?id=4032940&page=1

]]> By: Peanutcat http://fauxrealtho.com/2007/12/19/taking-responsibility/#comment-142867 Peanutcat Thu, 20 Dec 2007 23:54:41 +0000 http://fauxrealtho.com/2007/12/19/taking-responsibility/#comment-142867 So you think she should have had an abortion or what? So you think she should have had an abortion or what?

]]> By: Mermade http://fauxrealtho.com/2007/12/19/taking-responsibility/#comment-142742 Mermade Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:00:00 +0000 http://fauxrealtho.com/2007/12/19/taking-responsibility/#comment-142742 <i> I find it rather surprising that they wouldn’t use birth control. </i> I suspect that they probably were using some form of birth control, but that it failed. For example, the pill fails for 8 out out of every 100 women with "typical use." That's what might have happened. I find it rather surprising that they wouldn’t use birth control.

I suspect that they probably were using some form of birth control, but that it failed. For example, the pill fails for 8 out out of every 100 women with “typical use.” That’s what might have happened.

]]> By: John http://fauxrealtho.com/2007/12/19/taking-responsibility/#comment-142725 John Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:29:33 +0000 http://fauxrealtho.com/2007/12/19/taking-responsibility/#comment-142725 <i>like it’s fucking surprising that a professional sixteen-year-old in a three year relationship might possibly have sex. </i> I find it rather surprising that they wouldn't use birth control. like it’s fucking surprising that a professional sixteen-year-old in a three year relationship might possibly have sex.

I find it rather surprising that they wouldn’t use birth control.

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