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		<title>By: The &#8220;Alas, a Porn Portal&#8221; Controversy: A Bibliography &#171; The SmackDog Chronicles</title>
		<link>http://fauxrealtho.com/2006/10/10/um-yeah/#comment-247589</link>
		<dc:creator>The &#8220;Alas, a Porn Portal&#8221; Controversy: A Bibliography &#171; The SmackDog Chronicles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The SmackDog Chronicles &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The &#8220;Alas, a Porn Portal&#8221; Controversy: A Bibliography</title>
		<link>http://fauxrealtho.com/2006/10/10/um-yeah/#comment-646</link>
		<dc:creator>The SmackDog Chronicles &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The &#8220;Alas, a Porn Portal&#8221; Controversy: A Bibliography</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Crescat Sententia</title>
		<link>http://fauxrealtho.com/2006/10/10/um-yeah/#comment-558</link>
		<dc:creator>Crescat Sententia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 19:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Blogging and the responsibility to one's readers...&lt;/strong&gt;

Ampersand has sold a portion of his domain to a search-engine-trafficker who provides links and traffic to pornographic website. Because Ampersand is part of the feminist (and anti-unfeminist) blogging community, and because a number of them believe ha...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Blogging and the responsibility to one&#8217;s readers&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Ampersand has sold a portion of his domain to a search-engine-trafficker who provides links and traffic to pornographic website. Because Ampersand is part of the feminist (and anti-unfeminist) blogging community, and because a number of them believe ha&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alas, an Eruption &#171; Creative Destruction</title>
		<link>http://fauxrealtho.com/2006/10/10/um-yeah/#comment-556</link>
		<dc:creator>Alas, an Eruption &#171; Creative Destruction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 08:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] http://womensspace.wordpress.com/2006/10/08/alas-a-blog-reviews-hardcore-pornography-websites-did-everybody-but-me-already-know-this/#comment-3416 http://sourduck.blogspot.com/2006/10/alas-porn-site.html http://womensspace.wordpress.com/2006/10/08/the-revolution-will-be-commodified-alternatives-to-selling-feminist-websites-and-blogs-to-the-man/ http://hugoboy.typepad.com/hugo_schwyzer/2006/10/ampersand_male_.html http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/?p=411 http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/?p=412 http://laurelin.wordpress.com/2006/10/10/alas-a-sell-out/ http://viv.id.au/blog/?p=88 http://angryforareason.blogspot.com/2006/10/no-really-im-feminist.html http://sparklematrix.wordpress.com/2006/10/09/alas-a-blog-sold-out-to-pimp-my-ride/ http://ginmar.livejournal.com/909066.html http://witchywoo.wordpress.com/2006/10/10/fuckery-and-betrayal/ http://rocr.xepher.net/weblog/archives/001793.html http://womensspace.wordpress.com/2006/10/12/pimp-my-domain-for-dummies-not-mysterious/ http://fauxrealtho.com/2006/10/10/um-yeah/ http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/10/11/bad-ideas/ http://community.livejournal.com/mf_unicorns/7838.html [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="http://womensspace.wordpress.com/2006/10/08/alas-a-blog-reviews-hardcore-pornography-websites-did-everybody-but-me-already-know-this/#comment-3416" rel="nofollow">http://womensspace.wordpress.com/2006/10/08/alas-a-blog-reviews-hardcore-pornography-websites-did-everybody-but-me-already-know-this/#comment-3416</a> <a href="http://sourduck.blogspot.com/2006/10/alas-porn-site.html" rel="nofollow">http://sourduck.blogspot.com/2006/10/alas-porn-site.html</a> <a href="http://womensspace.wordpress.com/2006/10/08/the-revolution-will-be-commodified-alternatives-to-selling-feminist-websites-and-blogs-to-the-man/" rel="nofollow">http://womensspace.wordpress.com/2006/10/08/the-revolution-will-be-commodified-alternatives-to-selling-feminist-websites-and-blogs-to-the-man/</a> <a href="http://hugoboy.typepad.com/hugo_schwyzer/2006/10/ampersand_male_.html" rel="nofollow">http://hugoboy.typepad.com/hugo_schwyzer/2006/10/ampersand_male_.html</a> <a href="http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/?p=411" rel="nofollow">http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/?p=411</a> <a href="http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/?p=412" rel="nofollow">http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/?p=412</a> <a href="http://laurelin.wordpress.com/2006/10/10/alas-a-sell-out/" rel="nofollow">http://laurelin.wordpress.com/2006/10/10/alas-a-sell-out/</a> <a href="http://viv.id.au/blog/?p=88" rel="nofollow">http://viv.id.au/blog/?p=88</a> <a href="http://angryforareason.blogspot.com/2006/10/no-really-im-feminist.html" rel="nofollow">http://angryforareason.blogspot.com/2006/10/no-really-im-feminist.html</a> <a href="http://sparklematrix.wordpress.com/2006/10/09/alas-a-blog-sold-out-to-pimp-my-ride/" rel="nofollow">http://sparklematrix.wordpress.com/2006/10/09/alas-a-blog-sold-out-to-pimp-my-ride/</a> <a href="http://ginmar.livejournal.com/909066.html" rel="nofollow">http://ginmar.livejournal.com/909066.html</a> <a href="http://witchywoo.wordpress.com/2006/10/10/fuckery-and-betrayal/" rel="nofollow">http://witchywoo.wordpress.com/2006/10/10/fuckery-and-betrayal/</a> <a href="http://rocr.xepher.net/weblog/archives/001793.html" rel="nofollow">http://rocr.xepher.net/weblog/archives/001793.html</a> <a href="http://womensspace.wordpress.com/2006/10/12/pimp-my-domain-for-dummies-not-mysterious/" rel="nofollow">http://womensspace.wordpress.com/2006/10/12/pimp-my-domain-for-dummies-not-mysterious/</a> <a href="http://fauxrealtho.com/2006/10/10/um-yeah/" rel="nofollow">http://fauxrealtho.com/2006/10/10/um-yeah/</a> <a href="http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/10/11/bad-ideas/" rel="nofollow">http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/10/11/bad-ideas/</a> <a href="http://community.livejournal.com/mf_unicorns/7838.html" rel="nofollow">http://community.livejournal.com/mf_unicorns/7838.html</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: evil_fizz</title>
		<link>http://fauxrealtho.com/2006/10/10/um-yeah/#comment-546</link>
		<dc:creator>evil_fizz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;And - as a couple of “Alas” readers have noticed - some pages I don’t own include links to porn.&lt;/i&gt;

Which makes it sound like you had no intention of actually copping to this fact except that the proverbial cat was already out the bag.  Frankly, I think this is largely hairsplitting.  You imply that amptoons will not be supporting p0rn and then go on to hedge your bets.

Motivations aside, it's still poor form in my mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And - as a couple of “Alas” readers have noticed - some pages I don’t own include links to porn.</i></p>
<p>Which makes it sound like you had no intention of actually copping to this fact except that the proverbial cat was already out the bag.  Frankly, I think this is largely hairsplitting.  You imply that amptoons will not be supporting p0rn and then go on to hedge your bets.</p>
<p>Motivations aside, it&#8217;s still poor form in my mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Ampersand</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lauren, can you please send me an email? I want to email you something, and I can't seem to find your current email address. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lauren, can you please send me an email? I want to email you something, and I can&#8217;t seem to find your current email address. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Feministe &#187; Bad Ideas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Feministe &#187; Bad Ideas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 18:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Lauren notes: Some may think this is small beans, but in a community where sexual politics are so very personal, as well as political, this is an enormous business gaffe of exceeding irony. Of all the things one can do to save a buck, making money off the backs (and mouths and pussies) of women is not one that I encourage for a feminist man. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Lauren notes: Some may think this is small beans, but in a community where sexual politics are so very personal, as well as political, this is an enormous business gaffe of exceeding irony. Of all the things one can do to save a buck, making money off the backs (and mouths and pussies) of women is not one that I encourage for a feminist man. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 17:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for answering, Barry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for answering, Barry.</p>
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		<title>By: Ampersand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ampersand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoops. Aside from the "two two two" error, I forgot to include a link to &lt;a href="http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/09/13/i-sold-amptoonscom/" rel="nofollow"&gt;the post I quoted the paragraph from&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops. Aside from the &#8220;two two two&#8221; error, I forgot to include a link to <a href="http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/09/13/i-sold-amptoonscom/" rel="nofollow">the post I quoted the paragraph from</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Ampersand</title>
		<link>http://fauxrealtho.com/2006/10/10/um-yeah/#comment-534</link>
		<dc:creator>Ampersand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umn, yeah.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I remember reading Barry’s initial announcement and wondered why it was so important that he explicitly state the new owner of his website would never put porn ads on Amptoons.com.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I'm sure that this is just an honest mistake, not a deliberate lie - but it would have been nice for you to include a link to the post in question, so that your readers could check it out for themselves. Not only did I not "explicitly state" that, I said exactly the opposite; I pointed out that the new owner was putting porn ads on amptoons.com. Here's the paragraph you're referring to:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I was assured by the buyer that he would never host porn sites on “amptoons.com.” And I wrote into the contract that his link on “Alas” could never be a direct link to a porn site. But beyond that, I have no ability to control what the buyer does with his pages - the deal is that he has absolutely no say in what’s on “Alas,” but we also agreed that I have no say over what he does with his own property. And - as a couple of “Alas” readers have noticed - some pages I don’t own include links to porn.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don't think that's deceptive. I see a couple of readers have suggested that maybe I didn't realize he'd be including porn links on his pages, but it didn't occur to me that people could take it that way when I wrote the above paragraph. To claim that I ever "explicitly stated" that the new owner wouldn't put on porn ads is simply untrue.

Also, I haven't sold my blog; I and the other writers remain the owners of all our own material, the new owner has no editorial say, no right to post, no right to censor our posts, etc..

I spoke to one of my co-bloggers before I made the sale, and informed a second before I made the news public; the two I spoke two were the two I thought would be most likely to object. But you're right; in retrospect, I should have emailed all the co-bloggers and guest-bloggers before the sale happened. I'll email them all now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umn, yeah.</p>
<blockquote><p>I remember reading Barry’s initial announcement and wondered why it was so important that he explicitly state the new owner of his website would never put porn ads on Amptoons.com.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that this is just an honest mistake, not a deliberate lie - but it would have been nice for you to include a link to the post in question, so that your readers could check it out for themselves. Not only did I not &#8220;explicitly state&#8221; that, I said exactly the opposite; I pointed out that the new owner was putting porn ads on amptoons.com. Here&#8217;s the paragraph you&#8217;re referring to:</p>
<blockquote><p>I was assured by the buyer that he would never host porn sites on “amptoons.com.” And I wrote into the contract that his link on “Alas” could never be a direct link to a porn site. But beyond that, I have no ability to control what the buyer does with his pages - the deal is that he has absolutely no say in what’s on “Alas,” but we also agreed that I have no say over what he does with his own property. And - as a couple of “Alas” readers have noticed - some pages I don’t own include links to porn.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s deceptive. I see a couple of readers have suggested that maybe I didn&#8217;t realize he&#8217;d be including porn links on his pages, but it didn&#8217;t occur to me that people could take it that way when I wrote the above paragraph. To claim that I ever &#8220;explicitly stated&#8221; that the new owner wouldn&#8217;t put on porn ads is simply untrue.</p>
<p>Also, I haven&#8217;t sold my blog; I and the other writers remain the owners of all our own material, the new owner has no editorial say, no right to post, no right to censor our posts, etc..</p>
<p>I spoke to one of my co-bloggers before I made the sale, and informed a second before I made the news public; the two I spoke two were the two I thought would be most likely to object. But you&#8217;re right; in retrospect, I should have emailed all the co-bloggers and guest-bloggers before the sale happened. I&#8217;ll email them all now.</p>
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